John McCain Is He Even Eligible To Be President?

“No person except a natural born citizen,

shall be eligible to the office of President”

John McCain was born August 29, 1936 in Panama

by Francis Steffan
AmericanVoiceRadio.net

John McCain was born August 29, 1936 in the Panama Canal Zone, to two U.S. citizens. It’s a common misunderstanding that the zone was a U.S. territory – in fact, the U.S. had lease rights, but not territorial rights.

The US Constitution states, “No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States.”

“Natural Born Citizen” – “is where ONLY the natural act of one being born in a place determines the status of ones citizenship with no additional stipulations necessary to influence that status”

No law or court ruling has ever established the precise definition of a natural born citizen. It is generally agreed that a natural born citizen of the United States is any person born in one of the 50 states or the District of Columbia.

John McCain’s father “Jack” was born in Council Bluffs, Iowa. McCain graduated from the United States Naval Academy in 1931. Like his father and son, he graduated near the bottom of his class. He married Roberta Wright, a wealthy oil heiress, on January 21, 1933, in Caesar’s Bar, Tijuana, Mexico. During WW II he commanded the submarine Gunnel at Operation Torch. After the end of the war, he was assigned to the Office of the Chief of Naval Personnel until 1948. He assumed command of Submarine Division 71 in the Pacific the next year. In 1950, he was assigned to a series of posts at The Pentagon. He spent the 1960s in a series of commands in the Atlantic, becoming Commander in Chief, U.S. Naval Forces in Europe in 1967 and 1968. Admiral McCain directed an investigation into the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty and he wanted the investigation done in less than a week even though the court’s president, Rear Admiral Isaac Kidd, said that it would take 6 months to conduct properly. Admiral McCain also wouldn’t permit Admiral Kidd to travel to Israel or to contact any potential Israeli witnesses. In fact, the written affidavits of 60 witnesses from the Liberty itself who were hospitalized at the time of the restricted inquiry, were also excluded from the final report and not considered as part of the evidentiary record. The investigation was completed in just ten days. The National Archives in College Park, Maryland includes in its files on casualties from the Liberty copies of the original telegrams the Navy sent out to family members. The telegramswhich called the attack accidental, were sent out June 9, the day before the Navy court of inquiry convened .

When Senator McCain was asked to reopen and conduct a proper investigation into the USS Liberty’s attack he stated that he wasn’t going to do anything about it because the “matter was thoroughly reviewed.”

Senator McCain also collaborated with ultra liberal Senator Ted Kennedy to attempt to provide amnesty to nearly 40 million illegal aliens, mostly Mexican.

When the Constitution was established, the United States government did not have a empire builder foreign policy. The United States military was for defensive purposes only. As a matter of fact, the U.S. is not to have a “standing Army” and all the documents evidencing the intent of the authors of the Constitution, warned against becoming involved in foreign entanglements. The U.S. had zero foreign based military forces and certainly did not approve of, envision, or condone having babies and raising families on foreign based U.S. military installations. The intent of the authors of the Constitution is exactly opposite the policy twentieth century U.S. government has pursued.

The Constitution of the United States, Article 1, Section 8, vests in Congress the power “to establish an uniform rule of naturalization.” “Naturalization” is NOT synonymous with “Natural Born Citizen.”

In order to come to a Constitutional definition of “Natural Born Citizen,” one must look to the common meaning and understanding of the phrase at the time it was written.

The Constitution has been called a “living document” by liberal progressives who think they know better than the authors of the Constitution and want what they want with disregard for The Supreme Law of the Land. In one way, and one way only, is the Constitution a living document. The authors of the Constitution gave a specific process to add to or subtract from the Constitution and that is by amendment. The Supreme Court, the U.S. Congress nor the President of the United States are granted the authority to define or change the Constitution in any way, they only have an obligation and duty to obey it.

There were no foreign based US military forces at the writing of the U.S. Constitution, therefore, it is impossible that the intent of the Constitution was to have babies born to civilian wives of military personnel be considered “Natural Born Citizens.” The only authority the government may lawfully exercise, through the U.S. Congress, is to declare these children to be “naturalized Citizens” at birth based upon the U.S. , Congress’s authority “establish an uniform rule of Naturalization.” I must reiterate, not the U.S. Congress, the U.S. Supreme Court nor the President of the United States is “authorized” to define or change the meaning, definition, or intent of “Natural Born Citizen” as prescribed by the authors of the Constitution.

The original “intent” and therefore meaning and definition of “Natural Born Citizen” is one free white man being delivered through natural progression of a pregnancy, born within the geographical boundaries of one of the several States of the union, and later the District of Columbia. This is very clear and simple and what it means is born HERE.

In the Fourteenth Amendment the eligible group allowed Citizenship was expanded from free white men to “All persons.” This would have been better stated “all people” to avoid the bogus recognition of a corporation being a “person.”This would have been better as it would have clarified the meaning as intended which is having rights of people but lacking any of the liabilities. One cannot imprison a corporation, but that is for a later article.

The Fourteenth Amendment, Section 1 actually defines “natural born citizen” by stating, “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”

One’s wishes of what one feels things should be must yield to facts of law and one must accept the way things are according to the law until such time one is able to change the law.

There are two types of Citizenship in the United States, Natural Born and Naturalized. The fourteenth amendment defines “Natural Born Citizen” as persons born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof. It goes on to explain that there exists a dual Citizenship that includes the United States and of the State in which on lives. This in itself serves to demonstrate that Natural Born Citizen being born in the United States means within one of the several united States of America.

People may feel that it is not right that John McCain is not eligible to be President of the United States of America, however, this is a fact of law. “No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President. There are two types of Citizenship in the United States “Natural Born” and “Naturalized.” Congress has authority to make rules as to how to become a “naturalized citizen.” There is no such authority granted to Congress, the Court, or the President to define “Natural Born Citizen.”

Given the fact the United States official and long term military enclaves presence within foreign nations was not authorized and in fact was cautioned against by the authors of the founding documents of this nation including but not limited to the Constitution it is not only unlikely but impossible that the authors intended anyone born outside the several States of the United States, for any reason, to be considered “Natural Born Citizens” of the United States. This position and fact is second witnessed and verified by the fourteenth amendment, section 1 where it states clearly the two forms of United States Citizenship and defines Natural Born Citizen as “all persons born…in the United States…”.

Some will attempt to argue the point that U.S. military bases are under the jurisdiction of the United States and the fourteenth amendment mentions that. The fourteenth amendment states, “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.” The word “and” means “as well as” being born in the United States. Being born only under the jurisdiction of the United States, as some misguided military people would like to imagine, is not good enough. Some would like to believe that because the “United States” has a Status of Forces Agreement with a foreign government that military bases are somehow “sovereign” U.S. territory. If you murder a Panamanian citizen in Oregon you will be arrested by Oregon police, go through the Oregon courts and be imprisoned in Oregon, and now some other state maybe, but still within the U.S. If you murder a Panamanian citizen on a U.S. military base in Panama you will be arrested by Panamanian police, go through the Panamanian courts and be imprisoned in Panama. So much for “sovereignty.”

All this discussion is nothing more than hot air and a waste of time that is off point. The point is that one cannot build a viable position on a non-existent foundation. In this case the foundation is the Constitution and the intent of the authors, NOT Status of Forces Agreements and worthless arguments by military men who would like to have babies on foreign soil, calling them natural born Citizens and have them run for President some day.

The authors of the U.S. founding documents counseled against becoming entangled in foreign wars. They also had a distinct distaste for colonial empire building. So now we are to believe that it was their intent to designate the prodigy, born on foreign soil, of the American centurion colonizing for the empire as a Natural Born Citizen?

The fourteenth amendment states “born or naturalized in the United States,” that is IN the United States. At the time of the writing of the Constitution it was properly written as united States of America as the word “united” was describing the condition of the States not a proper name of a thing. The Congress can direct that persons may be “Naturalized” “in” the United States to mean embassies, military bases or wherever else they decide. That is what they are authorized to do. However, they are NOT authorized to redefine what “Natural Born Citizen” means. It means what it meant to the authors of the Constitution. The US did not have foreign military bases at the time the Constitution was authored. Therefore “born on a US military base in a foreign country” is NOT what they meant by “Natural Born Citizen.”

The intention of the authors of the Constitution was that no person born outside the geographical boundaries of the several States of the United States of America be eligible to hold the office of President of the United States of America. Animus ad se omne jus ducit – It is to the intention that all law applies. Animus moninis est anima scripti – The intention of the party is the soul of the instrument. 3 Bulstr 67 – Maxims of Law from Bouvier’s 1856 Law Dictionary.

There are consequences to disregarding the Constitution and the intent of the authors of our founding documents. There are consequences to following a course of empire building by military might. There are consequences to being born on foreign soil as a son or daughter of a centurion of that empire building military. You are not Constitutionally eligible to be President of the United States of America.

You may think it’s not fair. You may feel it’s not right. You may think because military and government “experts” tell you a military base in a foreign country is actually the United States that it’s okay for John McCain to hold the office of President of the United States. You are nevertheless wrong and so are they, no matter how long they have told the falsehood and believed in error. communis error no facit just – A common error does not make law. –Maxims of Law from Bouvier’s 1856 Law Dictionary.

The position stated in this article is based only upon the Constitution and the intent of the authors of the founding documents of this nation. The only authority on this matter is the Constitution and the intent of the authors. Argumentum ab authoritate est fortissimum in lege – An argument drawn from authority is the strongest in law. Co. Litt. 254.-Maxims of Law from Bouvier’s 1856 Law Dictionary.

If you don’t like the law, by all means work to change it, however, until such time that it is changed John McCain III is not a natural born citizen and therefore not eligible to be President of the United States of America.

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32 Responses to “John McCain Is He Even Eligible To Be President?”

  1. Christopher Procyk Says:

    Oh Please! There are two definitions of a “Natural Born Citizen”. One is also considered a natural born US Citizen if they are born to American Parents abroad…. Ergo…. McCain is in fact eligible. End of story.

  2. americanchaos Says:

    Constitutional definition

    Section 1 of Article II of the Constitution contains the clause:
    “ No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States. ”

    Additionally, the 12th Amendment to the Constitution states that: “[N]o person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.”

    The origin of the natural-born citizen clause can be traced to a July 25, 1787, letter from John Jay to George Washington, presiding officer of the Constitutional Convention. John Jay wrote: “Permit me to hint, whether it would be wise and seasonable to provide a strong check to the admission of Foreigners into the administration of our national Government; and to declare expressly that the Commander in Chief of the American army shall not be given to nor devolve on, any but a natural born Citizen.” There was no debate, and this qualification for the office of the Presidency was introduced by the drafting Committee of Eleven, and then adopted without discussion by the Constitutional Convention.

    Children born outside the United States to American parents

    Three major candidates have sought the Presidency who were born outside the United States: Barry Goldwater (ran in 1964) was born in Arizona while it was still a U.S. territory, George Romney (ran in 1968) was born in Mexico to U.S. parents, and John McCain (ran in 2000 and runs in 2008) was born in the Panama Canal Zone to U.S. parents. Barry Goldwater’s case among these three is unique in that although Arizona was not a state, it was a fully incorporated territory of the United States, making it debatable whether or not he was born “outside” the United States. The Panama Canal Zone was under United States sovereignty between 1903 and 1979.[7] None of these candidates was elected, so it has never been fully addressed whether children born to Americans overseas are “natural-born citizens” and thus eligible for the Presidency. However, McCain is currently seeking the 2008 Republican nomination for President.

    Source:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural-born_citizen

  3. Great job on the site. Glad I’ve been able to help so much. I did notice that the block roll link to Arizona Resistance hits on our fair use page and not on our main page. If you could link it to http://arizonaresistance.net it would be greatly appreciated.

    The Arizona Resistance

  4. americanchaos Says:

    Consider it done.

  5. So you’re basically saying that the 1790 Naturalization Act, passed by the First Congress, is prima facie unconstitutional? Or are you arguing that being ‘considered’ natural-born is different from being natural-born?

    Good luck with that Supreme Court challenge.

  6. americanchaos Says:

    There are two types of Citizenship in the United States, Natural Born and Naturalized. The fourteenth amendment defines “Natural Born Citizen” as persons born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof.

  7. Christopher Procyk, AND WHERE EXACTLY does it say that IN the Constitution?!?!? NO PLACE WHATSOEVER & NO Congress can pass acts, laws or whatnot that CONTRADICT the Constitution EXCEPT BY PASSING ADDITIONAL Constitutional AMENDMENTS that is AGREED UPON by enough of the states. See next paragraph:

    blah, YES, the 1790 “act” was & IS NOT Constitutionally valid b/c it blatantly CONTRADICTS the Constitution & was NOT a Constitutional Amendment ratified by the required states. It may be valid for AREAS regarding citizenship NOT SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSED by the CONSTITUTION, however, it CAN’T CONTRADICT/OVERRIDE the Constitutional areas like which ppl are eligible for the offices of President & VP.

  8. americanchaos Says:

    The Constitution states, “No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible for the Office of President.” The 14th Amendment did not alter this provision.

    The status of the U. S. Navy Hospital in the Panama
    Canal Zone is described by the U. S. Department of State in its Foreign Affairs Manual (7FAM1116.1-4(c)): “Despite widespread popular belief, U. S. military installations abroad and U. S. diplomatic or consular facilities are not part of the United States within the meaning of the 14^th Amendment. A child born on the premises of such a
    facility is not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States and does not acquire U. S. citizenship by reason of birth.”

  9. Not So Fast Says:

    John McCain was born on August 29, 1936 at Coco-Solo, a U.S. Navy submarine base, Panama Canal Zone (then U.S. Territory) to Admiral John (“Jack”) S. McCain, Jr. (1911-1981) and Roberta (Wright) McCain (1912-).

    Coco Solo was on the Atlantic Ocean (NW) side of the Panama Canal Zone, near Colón, Panama

    A citizen of the United States must be born on U.S. soil in order to become president. John McCain was born in a U.S. military hospital in the Panama Canal Zone, which at the time, was part of the U.S., so he can be President. Children born overseas to military personnel, State department personnel, or other citizens working or studying overseas are considered U.S. national born.

    He was born in a Naval hospital, which is considered sovereign territory. But, even if he wasn’t, having at least one parent nominally a US citizen makes him…a natural born US citizen.

    Example: A child born of U.S. parents in Kaiserslautern, Germany is considered a U.S. citizen de facto. The child can elect to assume German citizenship, but must do so by age 14 and cannot hold dual citizenship. Americans cannot hold dual citizenship under U.S. law.

  10. domingo arong Says:

    As regards the children of U.S. citizens born abroad, Chief Justice Melville Fuller (with Justice John Marshall Harlan concurring), dissenting in U.S. v Wong Kim Ark (1898), said:

    “Thus the fourteenth amendment is held to be merely declaratory, except that it brings all persons, irrespective of color, within the scope of the alleged rule, and puts that rule beyond the control of the legislative power.

    “If the conclusion of the majority opinion is correct, then the children of citizens of the United States, who have been born abroad since July 28, 1868, when the amendment was declared ratified, were and are aliens, unless they have or shall, on attaining majority, become citizens by naturalization in the United States; and no statutory provision to the contrary is of any force or effect.”

    So, to Chief Justice Fuller, under Wong Kim Ark, children of U.S. citizens born abroad since 1868 “WERE AND ARE ALIENS.”

    Sadly, he adds, these foreign-born could only be “naturalized in the United States”–and could NOT possibly be “naturalized,” if they happen to be somewhere else–with the rather grim caveat that “no statutory provision to the contrary is of any force or effect,” including, of course, “all [naturalization] acts from 1790 down.”

    In the same Wong Kim Ark case, Justice Horace Gray in his majority opinion added a more disturbing note:

    “In 1802, all former acts [naturalization acts of 1790 and of 1795] were repealed, and the provisions concerning children of citizens were re-enacted in this form ‘… the children of persons who now are, or have been citizens of the United States shall, though born out of the limits and jurisdiction of the United States, be considered as citizens of the United States: provided, that the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons whose fathers have never resided within the United States.’ Act April 14, 1802, c. 28, 4 (2 Stat. 155) …

    “But the provision concerning foreign-born children, being expressly limited to the children of persons who then were or had been citizens, clearly did not include foreign-born children of any person who became a citizen since its enactment. 2 Kent, Comm. 52, 53; Binney, Alienigenae, 20, 25; 2 Am. Law Reg. 203, 205. Mr. Binney’s paper, as he states in his preface, was printed by him in the hope that congress might supply this defect in our law.

    “In accordance with his suggestions, it was enacted by the statute of February 10, 1855, c. 71, that ‘persons heretofore born, or hereafter to be born, out of the limits and jurisdiction of the United States, whose fathers were or shall be at the time of their birth citizens of the United States, shall be deemed and considered and are hereby declared to be citizens of the United States: provided, however, that the rights of citizenship shall not descend to persons whose fathers never resided in the United States.’ 10 Stat. 604; Rev. St. 1993.

    ‘It thus clearly appears that, during the half century intervening between 1802 and 1855, there was no legislation whatever for the citizenship of children born abroad during that period, of American parents who had not become citizens of the United States before the act of 1802; and that the act of 1855, like every other act of congress upon the subject, has, by express proviso, restricted the right of citizenship, thereby conferred upon foreign-born children of American citizens, to those children themselves, unless they became residents of the United States.”

    So, to Justice Gray, “during the half century intervening between 1802 and 1855, there was no legislation whatever for the citizenship of children born abroad”; thus, during this 50-year period, foreign-born children of American parents–who had not become U.S. citizens before the naturalization act of 1802–were ALIENS.

    In view of all this, can Senator John McCain still claim to be “natural-born,” or does he belong to the category of statutory citizens of the United States whose right to citizenship may be restricted by a mere act of congress?

  11. We need a US Supreme court decision on this topic. A law cannot define definitions in the Constitution. If McCain gets in without clarification, will we see a President Schwarzenegger?

  12. I am glad to see you stress “natural born”. He is a citizen, but NOT “natural born”. He has to have been BORN IN ONE OF THE STATES, of the United States, to be “natural”. But again, it is all relative. Do you believe the constitution should be obeyed 100%, or do you bend it, and make it be whatever you decide? No constitutional amendment, then it does not apply.

    I say 100%, but who listens to me?

  13. You should work hard to disqualify him, otherwise some 2 million Territorial Filipinos can also claim to have the same status of McCain at the time of their births. That would be a catastrophy!

    See http://territorialfilipino.wetpaint.com/

  14. Errata: ‘catastrophe’ instead of ‘catastrophy’

  15. This is an interesting and informative post. I had honestly never thought much about this particular aspect of citizenship. I don’t think the framers of our Constitution ever envisioned this angle. That said, I just want to add that there are many other reasons why McCain is not suitable for the office of POTUS. Not the least of which was his participation in the Keating Banking scandal. This hypocrite was the only one of the five congressmen to not have the decency to resign after exposed.

    His stance on illegal immigrants totally baffles me. Especially considering he is from a state that suffers greatly by this invasion from the south. I think all of the candidate presently on the roster are out of touch and living in another universe. What is it they don’t understand about “illegal”? They are criminals simply by way of the manner in which they entered this country. Each and every one of them should be sent back where they came from.

  16. gerald king Says:

    it makes no difference what the Constitution or the Naturalization Act says regarding who is a natural born citizen. If put to the test, the Supreme Court will rule that John McCain is a natural born citizen and will allow him to become “El Presidente.” And then we’ll be annexed by Mexico.

  17. You people sound like you actually want Ali Obama or Hillary the Witch to become Commander-in-Chief. Now that’s really scary.

  18. I find this “debate” on John McCain’s eligibility for the Presidency amusing. It seems that no one here likes the 1790 Act that was passed by Congress because it contradicts the Constitution and thus not legal. However, I don’t see ANYONE complaining about the Patriot Act which contradicts the Constitution at almost every turn. I would think that you would all be more concerned with broadening the powers of the federal government and the weakening of our civil liberities than whether or not John McCain can be President. Do you really think what the founders were trying to do when John Jay suggested this language to George Washington that no FORIEGNER could come to these shores and become President had John McCain in mind? Stop thinking in absolutes.

  19. My father was a career serviceman in the US Air Force stationed overseas in Japan when I was born in a military hospital there in the early 50’s. I’m not sure of all of the incidentals but when I left home after graduation my parents gave me my birh certificate as well as a naturalization certificate. I never put much thought to being an american citizen because I was brought up in the US. Do those of you who were born on US soil have a naturalization certificate to show citizenship? If being born overseas and considered a natural born citizen why would I need a naturalization certificate? I’m sure McCain has the same paperwork being born overseas under the same circumstances that I was.

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  21. The fact that the Senate passed resolution 511 says the issue is real. Now what the Senate has done is clearly violate the Constitution. There is a clear way to change the Constitution defined in Article V. The Senate cannot waive there arms and change the law. Napolitano is right we are a nation of sheep.

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  23. So, when will Arnold S. be eligible? Next time around??? I think we have had enough Nazi’s running many of our international and national issues and programs for too long, at least since ‘Operation Papaerclip.” That darn good marine, General Smedley Butler, once doing the bidding of the New World Order (33 campaigns) butchers for dough, finally came around and possibly saved this country from the huge rich magnates who wanted to overthrough thie government (they just loved Hitler)and weren’t even prosecuted by Congress even though they had the information necessary to do so. Ditto for the big-shots arming Hitler to the teeth (F. G. Farben, Harriman, etc). All that happend to them was fines for their companies under ‘Trading With the Enemy” Acts. Go figure. I know of many fine men and some women who were naturalized but can’t run for Prez or Vice Prez. I suppose a rich marriage is enough for the courts to make McCain okay. Yeah, down the tubes with the lower and middle classes…no change from the disruptive and deadly acts of the past seven years…and all for whom???

  24. Very interesting facts, indeed. John McCain has made so much of the issue of his patriotism versus Barak Obama’s. Why isn’t the DNC making this subject more of a campaign issue. McCain said just the other day he would rather lose the election than lose a war. That sounds like an ego-tripping warmonger who never fails to bring up his POW status. Maybe if he had been a better pilot he would not have been shot down and taken prisoner. If he is elected, it will not be long until the U.S. is playing policeman for the EU as well as the Middle East and around the globe. Somebody get this issue before the public ASAP.

  25. The US did not have foreign military bases at the time the Constitution was authored. Therefore “born on a US military base in a foreign country” is NOT what they meant by “Natural Born Citizen.”

    So by this logic anyone born outside of the thirteen original colonies is not eligible. Well then i guess that null and voids most presidents. Plus any court would have to uphold the constitutionality of the 1790 law considering their job is to interpret the original writers meaning of the words they wrote. Also, considering the constitution was ratified in 1787, and was basically written by the same people in 1790 can basically be considered clarification of what they meant.

  26. The status of the U. S. Navy Hospital in the Panama
    Canal Zone is described by the U. S. Department of State in its Foreign Affairs Manual (7FAM1116.1-4(c)): “Despite widespread popular belief, U. S. military installations abroad and U. S. diplomatic or consular facilities are not part of the United States within the meaning of the 14^th Amendment. A child born on the premises of such a
    facility is not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States and does not acquire U. S. citizenship by reason of birth.”

    “U. S. citizenship by reason of birth.”

    Not by reason of birth alone, but combined with to U.S. Citizen parents who meet all the other requirements then yes.

    Quit Grasping at straws

    Especially ones that aren’t there

    Still beats a man born in Kenya to a non-citizen goat herder

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  28. Ok, so there are two types of citizens- “natural born” and “naturalized.” Let’s start with “naturalized” and see if McCain fits into this category. Naturalization is the acquisition of citizenship or nationality by somebody who was not a citizen or national of that country when he or she was born. McCain was automatically a US citizen at the time of his birth due to his birth to 2 US citizens. I am a US citizen married to a citizen of the Philippines and living in the Philippines. My wife will be giving birth in March while we are still outside of the US. Our child will automatically be a US citizen (even though my wife only has “permanent resident” status in the US). My wife has started the naturalization process by getting her green card. To complete the naturalization process, my wife needs to apply for US citizenship after a certain number of years of living in the US as a “permanent resident.” Once she is granted US citizenship, she would then be considered a “naturalized” citizen. Our baby would fall into the category of “natural born” citizen since it did not have to go through the naturalization process due to its birth to a US citizen (me).

  29. In response to the post by americanchaos on February 6, 2008 at 5:40 pm

    The U.S. recognizes citizenship according to two fundamental principles: jus soli (right of birthplace), and jus sanguinis (right of blood). Under jus soli, a person receives American citizenship by virtue of being born in the United States. By contrast, jus sanguinis confers citizenship on those born to at least one U.S. citizen anywhere in the world. A person who does not qualify under either of these principles may seek U.S. citizenship through the process of naturalization.

    Meaning that a Panamanian born to 2 Panamanian citizens in the Naval hospital in Panama would not be granted citizenship on the basis of jus soli because it is not considered a US territory. The question as to whether or not the military installation in Panama is a US territory doesn’t have any effect on McCain’s status as a natural born citizen since his parents were both US citizens.

    Like I said in my last post, my child will automatically be a natural born US citizen, even though it will be born on Philippine soil. I am not in the military anymore and I have done a lot of research on this before I decided to take my wife here so that we could have the baby and save a lot of money. The territorial status of a military installation does not affect the citizenship of any child born to any US citizen anywhere in the world, it only affects the citizenship status of foreign nationals born there.

  30. christopher procyk, hmmm sounds like a terrorist don’t it. McCain is eligible because he is white, comes from white parents, and his family has been in the military, if he was african american, or asian, or latino but parents still citizens, forget about ever being president. THE CONSTITUTION SAYS TO BE PRESIDENT YOU NEED TO BE AN AMERICAN CITIZEN BORN IN AN AMERICAN STATE 1-50, BE 35 YRS OF AGE. CHRISTOPHER YOU ARE AN IGNORANT WHITE SHIT THAT WILL NEVER KNOW ANYTHING OUTSIDE HIS FUCKING COMMUNITY. IF OBAMA HAD BEEN BORN IN PANAMA; MOTHERFUCKING CONGRESS WOULD HAVE SPAT ON HIM, AND HUNG HIM OUTSIDE THE WHITEHOUSE AND LYNCHED HIM ON THE SPOT BEFORE HE HAD THE CHANCE TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT, SO FUCK YOU

  31. McCain is like Bush, probably buddies with him when ENRON went down. I bet none of you posting here know that Bush along with his entire family have large amounts of stock in companies that make and distribute weapons world wide, so as long as there is war Papa and Kid Bush make millions if not hundreds of millions in profit, and ooops who went to Iraq, and before that desert storm and shit, America is so ignorant as to what our leaders do it’s funny, and the shit is so obvious it makes it even more funny, well what do you except from the Bush family when they have enough balls to backstab a dictator/terrorist boss such as Sadam Hussein

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